In person, I hesitate to hand somebody my card, give them my website, or show them my portfolio.
Online, I'm slightly less hesitant, but it's still there. The primary reason I show more people online is mere convenience; all I have to do is supply a URL.
In person, if somebody compliments me, I smile and/or say "thanks". Sometimes they ask me while I'm not working for Disney or something. Hah. Disney.
Online, I usually reply with "thanks" and sometimes try to add more to my sentence. It really depends on the comment.
There are, I suppose, several reasons as to why I come across this way. Some may say I act ungrateful, unappreciative, distant... you know... that sort of thing. I do appreciate feedback or else I wouldn't even respond.
You see, the thing is, each drawing that an artist does was started (most often) from a blank piece of paper/canvas. People glance from one to the other with speed that makes me cringe and are often soon to locate the most detailed/technical/"superior" drawing and select it as their favourite. I think it's safe to say nobody but the artist appreciates all of the art for what it is. Do you think I draw a picture primarily because I want to see something detailed? Heck no. That's crazy. My art has meanings that I don't expect anybody to fathom. It only seems superficial to those with a superficial eye. Who else can appreciate the fact that each drawing is NOT an addition to the previous drawing and not to be individually compared to other drawings? Who else can appreciate the true expressions behind the collection of colours and shapes? Who else knows how much work went into developing the drawing? Indeed, who else but the artist? I'm forgetting why I'm writing this journal. Oh well.
I'm not trying to imply that the ideal world is where everybody has complete appreciation (I use that word lots) for all artwork. I'm guilty of not appreciating the artwork of others and trying to locate the most technically/subjective/objective appealing image to me. But perhaps that's just the way it is? It's like having friends. We're not all everyone's best friend because everybody is different. An artist's best artist friend is his or herself because the art is by them, for them, from them, and usually about them.
It's sort of frustrating when people say "show your art to the world!" Why would I do that? "So you don't waste your talent?" Gee, thanks. By showing it only to the one person who understands it, it's being wasted. "But some people just like to see it. There's nothing wrong with that." Sure, but it's not like I am doing it for their viewing pleasure. I would rather receive no feedback than misinterpreted, unappreciative, or uneducated feedback. "That's selfish." And yet I still show my work to people regardless of what I really want. Can nobody appreciate this?
It also bugs me how people try to force themselves into what I like to call "the equation". My art is by me, about me, for me, and understood by me, so where do other people come into that? Yes, sometimes it's for another person, or to an extent understood by another person, but who has the right to demand anything other than that? God has a right because He gave me my skills but none of you are God. Go Treijim, you're on a roll (of arrogance)!
BUUUT having said all of this, I show my artwork despite the constant (unavoidable) disappointment. When I start to feel like this, I begin to hope with a fierce passion that somebody out there gets something authentic out of my art -- even if they never tell me. I begin to hope that somebody will leave a comment reiterating everything I like about a personal drawing of my own. I think that would honestly make me cry. But I know it's practically impossible. I say all this and still expect nothing from you all. Yes there is a sense of expectation, but such a sense is not an obligation on your behalf, nor is it of fair consequence if you fail to meet my seemingly unreasonable hopes. I constantly put myself into a position for likely disappointment and unlikely pleasure because of my slight hope that somebody will get something out of it.
It's funny how it sort of goes both ways, though. If it's fair to expect me to show appreciation for your feedback (regardless of assumed value of content), is it not then only fair to expect you to show appreciation for my response to your feedback (again, regardless of its value)? Who governs what is valuable and what is not? How much can interpretation spoil what could potentially be a satisfying interaction? What is the ideal position for this crazy cycle of appreciation to begin at? Does it start when you comment/fave, or when I submit work? Or when I join the site? Or when I put more "effort" into a picture? Or after I've replied to your first response? I dunno. Something to think about, perhaps.
Perhaps you're thinking I'm making a big deal out of nothing or that I'm being selfish or whatever. Whatever you think, I encourage you to be honest and polite. Not honest and rude. Not dishonest and polite. Certainly not dishonest and rude. Please share your thoughts. I would like to discuss this with people. I'll try my hardest to respond with gratitude
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Also I find it dispiriting when I see a work (mine or others' ) into which someone has put in a huge amount of effort and emotion and someone leaves a comment saying 'cool' and then leaves. But yeah, there's that whole question - is it selfish to say that's not enough, is it better to have people not see your artwork than not fully appreciate it?
One thing I am sure about is that I don't feel artists have to answer to the people who watch them. It makes me really frustrated when I see popular deviants being berated by fans for drawing something different to their usual style - I see that as arrogant, thinking the artist has to answer to you in their personal practice.
On the issue of appreciation, I think it's a tricky subject. It's something that makes me reluctant to visit too many galleries (real life ones that is) and often I don't want to comment on dA. The thing is, in a gallery with a large number of artworks I am all too conscious that each one is likely to have a massive significance to the artist, to have taken a very long time and a lot of emotion or at least to have many deeper meanings. Most likely you could spend all day studying a single work, but not only do I not have time to do that, I don't want to get so emotionally involved with something on an ordinary day. I pull away - I don't want to see something life-changing, I want to have a nice day and have lunch and go home, in all honesty. So I skim the over them, admire the technical skill, connect emotionally with a few of them and have a nice day. It would probably be wiser, and maybe make me a better person if I was open to emotion and ready to be moved - but that's not how I am.
I agree with what you say about detail too. A while ago I had the point driven home to me when I was showing a non-artist friend some sketches from art school. They were quick anatomical studies of hands. Two were simple sketches but accurately proportioned. Another had gone crooked and was out of proportion but I'd toned it and added all the details of lines and fingernails. The friend immediately pointed it out and said, 'that one's good' even though to me it looked clumsy, and the other two drawings were the ones that I had learned from.
Personally, I started watching you because I saw something in your gallery that moved me, even if I can't put it into words yet. I was impressed by the technical skill, yes, but I don't just hit watch on every artist I admire. I felt that if I just clicked to another page without watching you then there would be something I'd miss by not seeing a new submission or by not visiting again. I haven't spent long enough contemplating any one piece to leave a comment that wouldn't sound false or flippant to me, but what I really appreciate out of the artists I watch is when they take the time to actually reflect on art or their artwork or a current issue, actually write a long post and start a discussion with watchers. So, forgive me if I skim over your gallery with open superficiality, but there is something I get out of seeing your art and writing.
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You're disappointed because so few (if any) people truly understand you're art? That's true of virtually every human interaction. How many readers truly understand half of a book they've read? What percent of the people who know you really understand you? Any person who gives, teaches, makes, or shares will inevitably be refused, ignored, or accepted with misunderstanding.
People take from art what they want. Which usually ends up not much. You spend 10 hours on a piece that I look at for 30seconds. And that's a piece that I like. I don't think the frivolous nature that I and most people look at art remotely demeans it.
I also don't think you should be too discouraged by that. You can't possibly know the repercussions of your art. I always think of The Butterfly Effect (not the movie), and how different peoples lives would be with the slightest change. Your art changes lives. Only God knows how.
I hope you keep sharing your art because I love it. And I recommend reading "Art & Fear: Observations on the Perils (and Rewards) of Artmaking by David Bayles and Ted Orland"
Having said that, I totally understand where the public comes from. Art, in the 21st sense, is a commodity. The public wants to view art, and most artists like the idea of creating art for profit. When you add these elements into the equation, it changes what an artist can do without being subjected to people quizzing him on "why this, or why not that?" It comes with the territory. Along with "did u do that?" or "I can do better." It's never-ending, and I don't think it will get better until and if we take the two elements out of the equation.
I've been a freelance artist now for 20 years. I've heard every comment that could be made. I've dealt with every kind of client that you can imagine from the very affluent and likable, to the chintzy and hateful. I've had to defend my art, teach people about art so that I could sell it to them, and even give art away just to get them off my back. If you show your work to the world, you will get those who just don't get it. Personally, I have quit trying to get the public to understand what I do. I do it, I sell it, and I sure don't care what they say anymore. When you have the time and experience in your career, then you don't have to worry what people think about your work. I love what I do. I accept that the world for the most part don't get us artists as a whole. So I don't make it an issue anymore. I do what I want, and sell what sells, then I'm done.
I know your work for you is not a "product" that you are trying to sell. But trust me, you will still get the same kind of people who just don't get you, as they do the same to me. I say let it ride, and show your work as you see fit. Comment where needed, and toss the rest aside.
I hope it makes sense what I just said, cuz I really just speak from the heart and sometimes don't think it through.
all my best
Terry
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This is the curse of being an individual. We cannot give or share everything of a feeling, a truth, a moment, with another. But we can give glimpses. I'm extremely grateful for the glimpses of transcendent emotions and truths that others have given me through art, and my driving hope is that someday, maybe, my art might give some sort of glimpse to someone. I believe that in Heaven, we will be able to share fully these things in true communion. Until then, we can only try our best to give glimpses, and to receive them.
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The issue is clear. It is between Darkness and Light and everyone must choose a side. -G.K. Chesterton
I refuse to judge any person by his or her race.
That includes The Last Airbender actors.
To a certain extent, I am not an artist. I've shared a few small things with others, but my reasoning was entirely different. There was something inside me, for the little bit of stuff I've posted that said "share this with others, you HAVE to". I don't know why, and until I posted it, or tried to tell people my point of view, that little inside voice wouldn't be quiet.
I may never have the talents that others have, but I think I'm good at appreciating good work, so I try to do that as well as I can.
Thank you for what you let us see, and I hope you never view me as too critical.
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It is true, I cannot fathom all the possible meanings a painting could have for you. But I know what they mean to me and yet there's not enough words in the world and certainly, I don't see a point in letting you know, because you wouldn't get it like I don't get you.
So I think this whole discussion is a two way street. How could I possibly tell you what it means to me when I fave something?
You say you "hope" someone out there perceives something authentic. I am telling you - many do. I can only speak for myself though, when I say - if I didn't, I wouldn't be watching you to begin with.
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[ Doodles of a Mind running loose ]
I started watching you because you're style at the time felt a little story book like. Every peice felt like it had some grand or greater story behind it and in front of it. The world you projected, and the way you projected it was something that just caught my eye. I can't tell you really why I think it's special, but I know it is. At least in my eyes.
I'm not sure what I'm really getting at or if there's any real purpose in what I just said, but I hope you find something useful there.
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